It's official: I am "living in a fantasy land"
My biggest problem with Siva is as follows: He whines and moans about library-this and library-that, trying to make the case that Google should not be involved, because this is somehow robbing libraries of their god-given mission to digitize. However, reading his rhetoric, I cannot help sensing at every other word that the only work he has done in libraries was the research for his thesis and his books. That is, this man is not a librarian. And for that matter, I have my doubts about whether he is even friends with many librarians, though I am aware that many admire him.
The root of these doubts lies in my own personal, admittedly anecdotal experience. That is, the librarians I know all think the project is great. And furthermore, I can't think of any who think that it is something that it would be *possible* for libraries to accomplish on their own (at least not in any remotely timely way). The librarians here at Michigan figured 1,000 years and a billion dollars. A THOUSAND YEARS. And being that this high level of digitization was, in fact, a pie-in-the-sky, wouldn't-it-be-nice goal for the library already, how ridiculous would it have been to say, no, Google, we WON'T let you digitize our collection, saving us $1,000,000,000 and 990 years? No, Google, DON'T allow us to spend that money on our outrageous subscription to Elsevier's e-journals or twenty gajillion new books, and DON'T leave our staff free to pursue more urgent preservation projects. Obviously that would have been better. Thanks for clearing that up, Siva.
Do I think it would be fantastic and amazing if it was possible for libraries to command the funds to execute a project like this independent of major corporate interests? Absolutely! But posing that as a viable option creates an entirely false dichotomy. The choice is not "Google digitizes everything" or "Libraries digitize everything." The choice is "Google digitizes everything" or "libraries digitize less than 1%." Framing the situation in the former way is both misleading and disingenuous (to borrow Siva's word). Siva is a very smart guy; he should know better.
But then, maybe that just brings me back to the point where I think he's living in fantasyland when it comes to libraries.
Comments
I hate to defend people perfectly capable of defending themselves, but -- speaking as a pragmatist who regularly presents at conferences with librarians -- there are two reasons I'd say that "notliz" is misguided in her criticism: one technological and one rhetorical. And I say this as someone who has observed large-scale digitization projects (most recently the digitizing of the Congressional Record by Readex) and written about them.
First, despite their market dominance in having algorithms for keyword searching, Google doesn't have superior technology for doing the actual digitizing of printed materials. I don't think they've invented a magic MRI-type machine that can digitize books without mechanically turning the pages. Even the fancy vaccuum cleaner machines I've seen require a live minder watching every page (although their salespeople don't say so). Besides, by outsourcing digitizing, it takes librarians and trained indexers out of the picture and turns the field into a low wage, ill-documented operation. What librarian would support that?
Second, it's rhetorically dishonest to claim the moral high ground if U of M's decision is just convenient corporate sponsorship of a university-centered initiative. By the logic of "notliz," how is this any more "noble" (as her university president claims) than having a corporation buy students a needed computer lab or food court? It also will eventually make the current "open stacks" of many university libraries closed to outsiders in the community who don't have a university login. It's not what you learn about libraries from doing a dissertation, but what you learn about libraries when you aren't. I've used open stacks in libraries around the world, and I think it's an important part of a larger Enlightenment project about access to knowledge.
Can I sign off as "notnotliz"?
Posted by: Liz Losh
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February 17, 2006 12:53 PM
Two comments:
First, I never meant to imply that Google's actual methods of digitization were in any way superior to those practiced by libraries. I have no real way of knowing whether they are or are not. But I do contest Ms. Losh's assertion that Google's involvement "takes librarians and trained indexers out of the picture." Google's interface and index are their own; the libraries' copies, the interfaces they create for them, and the methods they devise for metadata construction, etc, are similarly their own. Digitization isn't a combative process where one entity's doing something prevents others from doing similar things with the same raw materials. That's the beauty of it. The Google project, the OCA, various independent library and corporate initiatives -- these things all add into the total body of printed material that has been or will be digitized. Accretive, not combative.
Second, I'm curious how Ms. Losh thinks that this type of initiative is likely to lead to closing off the library stacks to those without a login. Perhaps she would like to elucidate? It seems like an interesting point; I'm afraid I just don't see the connection.
Posted by: Not Liz
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February 17, 2006 03:36 PM
1) If Google's method's aren't superior, why encourage the public perception that corporations are taking care of digitization problems, and we don't need public investment?
2) So, you don't think that universities are pressured to reduce their physical collections once digital copies are available? And you don't think that legal copyright challenges will encourage universities to use closed systems for access to digital collections, which are more clearly in the "fair use" context of education? I sincerely hope you are right.
Posted by: Liz Losh
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February 17, 2006 06:07 PM